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Mon Feb 8 12:14:29 PST 2010

I believe I've proven my credibility, even more today than ever.  I 
personally brought Greg Fields to us, and I respectfully asked Mr. Pepin 
to join us as well, but was eventually ignored.
So, while Michel and others are happily talking on other platforms, you 
can rest assured that they are not being truthful.  I take such offence 
at Michel telling Steve Guerra that he hadn't heard of our group, when 
everyone else, including Code Factory, Humanware, and RIM heard of us 
and have been quietly monitoring what has been said here.  It's a new low.
Are you telling me, that while Humanware staff have been conversing with 
me privately and while some have even joined this list, the only 
individual who hadn't heard of my group, is the head of marketing at 
HW?  Meanwhile - as proven earlier - he and I exchanged several direct 
messages last fall about this very community.  Who does he think he's 
kidding?
With all that has transpired not only today, but over the last several 
months overall, you can decide  for yourselves, what's reality, and what 
isn't.

I understand some people have taken issue with my approach towards 
Humanware specifically, but I refuse to accept blame for their refusal 
to show us a little respect and acknowledge our concern for the 
anticipated product.  No matter what has taken place from July until 
today, one thing has remained constant, and that is Humanware's shady 
business practices and abhorrent public relations methods.  So, whether 
we waited patiently for news or attempted to gather info from the 
company itself, we were ignored.  And being the largest collection of 
potential customers, it seems aweful inconsiderate and blatantly stupid 
to take such a stance against us.
Meanwhile, I correctly warned this list that the 9630 would not be the 
initially supported device when I got word from the RIM side, I 
correctly stated which devices would be supported, and relayed my 
numerous conversations with Humanware prior and beyond the pre-sale 
debacle last October.  All of this information came from me, not 
Humanware, so again, you decide who is worthy of respect between Mr. 
Pepin and myself.

As far as I'm concerned, I will continue to promote this group, and 
perhaps some reps will find it suitable to join us and provide direct 
feedback at some point.  However, I've lost respect for certain 
individuals for sure.

Thanks to Steve for trying to get the truth out last night, one way or 
another.  And feel free to promote your ACB show in the future, when 
mobile products are the topic of discussion.

Carlos

Market X Research

Eric SS wrote:
> Carlos, I am so glad you found that note.  I knew I saw it, so it 
> either meant your credibility was being challenged or his.  Well, we 
> suspected his, and now we know.
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> ESS
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> *From:* chat-bounces at accessiblebb.com 
> [mailto:chat-bounces at accessiblebb.com] *On Behalf Of *Carlos Palomino
> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2010 10:07 AM
> *To:* Accessible BlackBerry
> *Subject:* Re: [A-BB] to the list
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> Michel is full of crap, and I'll prove it.
> Just read the following, sent back in October.
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> Michel Pepin wrote:
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> This is the first I hear of this site and I will join the user list
>> address below to gather comments and feedback on Orator.
>> Feel free to email me if there are specific question you would want tme to
>> answer. As a policy HumanWare very seldom answer question on list serve
>> unless necessary.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Michel Pepin
>> Market Development Manager
>> Responsable Développement de Marché
>> HumanWare
>> 445, Parc-Industriel, Longueuil (QC) Canada J4H 3V7
>> T. +1 819 471-4818 ext. 331
>> F. +1 888 871 4828
>> www.humanware.com
>> ..........................................................................
>> ..........................................................................
>> ...................
>> The power is in your hands
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: carlos at oceansky.us [mailto:carlos at oceansky.us]
>> Sent: October 29, 2009 8:14 PM
>> To: Michel Pepin
>> Subject: Inquiry
>>
>> Hello, Michel,
>>
>> My name is Carlos Palomino, and I have been operating a website dedicated
>> to gathering user input on Orator.  I also host an email list which many
>> blind users have joined, in hopes of learning more about Orator as a
>> community.
>> We are anxious to hear more about the release of Orator, and wait
>> patiently for word from Humanware, with future news on this product.
>>
>> I am emailing you to ask if you wouldn't mind taking a few moments to
>> answer some questions from the users of my group?  Many members of my
>> group are potential customers of yours, and we have been receiving
>> conflicting information on Orator, pertaining to its upcoming release.  I
>> appreciate your time, and hope you can share a few words with us.  Mr.
>> Greg Fields is a member of my email list, and he has bene kind enough to
>> provide general info on BlackBerry accessibility, from his point of view.
>> But we have not had word from Humanware.
>>
>> Our community website is: www.accessiblebb.com
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>> * Carlos at oceansky.us
>> * (207) 956-0805
>>
>>
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> Carlos
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> Market X Research
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> The Guerra Show wrote:
>> Incidently, when asked directly last night off air, Michele Pepin was 
>> never given the info about this list to join, but I have passed it 
>> along to him to join as he was interested.
>>  
>> He also mentioned that development with the On Tour 9630 for Verizon 
>> is being done but their is nothing for him to believe that in a short 
>> amount of time it will be working with the Oratio
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